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Accident vs incident what are the real NTSB safety stats?

Off field landings, damaged gear, bruise wing tips etc. I read an account of a experimental aircraft (not an ultralight). Making an off field landing after and engine out and damaged the gear. He said it was listed as an incident and not an accident.

I also know someone who landed off-field in a light sport (n-numberd) AC and it was listed as an incident.

Does anyone know the real figures of total accidents including reported incidents?

As a trained aircraft crash investigator there is a difference in and accident and incident. In most cases we make the call at the scene. Below is the meaning of an accident in NTST 830. In most cases the FAA Field Inspector is first on the scene and will make the call if something is an accident or incident. FAA Inspectors they will also use FAR Part 43 Section 43 Appendix A Major Repair for guidance. If the damage fits one of the meaning is Appendix A it is considered an accident. Or if any person is taken t the hospital its an accident.

Any time an aircraft lands off airport it should be reported, but is not. However many times the local police or ATC will notify the local FSDO of an off airport landing and the local FSDO will look into it.

The NTSB stats are correct for reported accidents and incidents there is no hidden agenda for the NTSB or the FAA. Both agencies do completely investigation separate of each other. The FAA has nine responsibilities they are required by law to perform. The information can be found of FAA Form 8020-23 for both accidents and incidents.

NTSB 830.2 Definitions.
As used in this part the following words or phrases are defined as follows:
Aircraft accident means an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft which takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have disembarked, and in which any person suffers death or serious injury, or in which the aircraft receives substantial damage.

Civil aircraft means any aircraft other than a public aircraft.
Fatal injury means any injury which results in death within 30 days of the accident.
Incident means an occurrence other than an accident, associated with the operation of an aircraft, which affects or could affect the safety of operations.

Operator means any person who causes or authorizes the operation of an aircraft, such as the owner, lessee, or bailee of an aircraft.

Public aircraft means an aircraft used only for the United States Government, or an aircraft owned and operated (except for commercial purposes) or exclusively leased for at least 90 continuous days by a government other than the United States Government, including a State, the District of Columbia, a territory or possession of the United States, or a political subdivision of that government. "Public aircraft" does not include a government-owned aircraft transporting property for commercial purposes and does not include a government-owned aircraft transporting passengers other than: transporting (for other than commercial purposes) crewmembers or other persons aboard the aircraft whose presence is required to perform, or is associated with the performance of, a governmental function such as fire-fighting, search and rescue, law enforcement, aeronautical research, or biological or geological resource management; or transporting (for other than commercial purposes) persons aboard the aircraft if the aircraft is operated by the Armed Forces or an intelligence agency of the United States. Notwithstanding any limitation relating to use of the aircraft for commercial purposes, an aircraft shall be considered to be a public aircraft without regard to whether it is operated by a unit of government on behalf of another unit of government pursuant to a cost reimbursement agreement, if the unit of government on whose behalf the operation is conducted certifies to the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration that the operation was necessary to respond to a significant and imminent threat to life or property (including natural resources) and that no service by a private operator was reasonably available to meet the threat.

Serious injury means any injury which:
1.Requires hospitalization for more than 48 hours, commencing within 7 days from the date of the injury was received;
2.Results in a fracture of any bone (except simple fractures of fingers, toes, or nose);
3.Causes severe hemorrhages, nerve, muscle, or tendon damage;
4.Involves any internal organ; or
5.Involves second- or third-degree burns, or any burns affecting more than 5 percent of the body surface.
Substantial damage means damage or failure which adversely affects the structural strength, performance, or flight characteristics of the aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or replacement of the affected component. Engine failure or damage limited to an engine if only one engine fails or is damaged, bent fairings or cowling, dented skin, small punctured holes in the skin or fabric, ground damage to rotor or propeller blades, and damage to landing gear, wheels, tires, flaps, engine accessories, brakes, or wingtips are not considered "substantial damage" for the purpose of this part.

NTSB 830.5 Immediate notification.
The operator of any civil aircraft, or any public aircraft not operated by the Armed Forces or an intelligence agency of the United States, or a

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Thru-Hike Planning DISASTER!?

I'm planning to start a thru-hike of the Pacific Crest Trail next June, 2009... But I am totally lost! I have no clue about what to pack and how to budget resupply or anything. I'm going with a guy friend who is equally clueless. I was wondering if anyone has a simplified complete list of thru-hiking gear, for ULTRALIGHT packing. I have gotten good ideas from people but still don't know how to organize it all. It is as if I need a point-by-point checklist, if I could be so lucky. Help?

Try this website: http://upl.codeq.info/
I'm not sure if it'll be specific enough for your particular situation, but maybe it'll be a good enough starting point for you

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